Oliver Stone to RT: ‘US has become an Orwellian state’
Americans are living in an Orwellian state argue Academy Award-winning director Oliver Stone and historian Peter Kuznick, as they sit down with RT to discuss US foreign policy and the Obama administration’s disregard for the rule of law.
Both argue that Obama is a wolf in sheep’s clothing and that people have forgiven him a lot because of the “nightmare of the Bush presidency that preceded him.”
Academy Award-winning director Oliver Stone (right) and historian Peter Kuznick
“He has taken all the Bush changes he basically put them into the establishment, he has codified them,” Stone told RT. “It is an Orwellian state. It might not be oppressive on the surface, but there is no place to hide. Some part of you is going to end up in the database somewhere.”
According to Kuznick, American citizens live in a fish tank where their government intercepts more than 1.7 billion messages a day. “That is email, telephone calls, other forms of communication.”
No kidding. I mean really. No kidding. When did the inestimable Mr. Stone figure that out? As glad as I am to see him finally have a lightbulb moment, it seems he was way waaay behind those dumb ass Teabaggers who had this figured out before Obama was even elected in 2008. Of course, they are just a bunch of ignint racists...so who listens to them? Not Mr. Stone.
Yes, and the reason is assholes like Obama.He [Obama] was a great hope for change. The color of his skin, the upbringing, the internationalism, the globalism, seemed all evident. And he is an intelligent man. He has taken all the Bush changes he basically put them into the establishment, he has codified them. That is what is sad. So we are going into the second administration that is living outside the law and does not respect the law and foundations of our system and he is a constitutional lawyer, you know. Without the law, it is the law of the jungle. Nuremburg existed for a reason and there was a reason to have trials, there is a reason for due process – ‘habeas corpus’ as they call it in the United States.
But now Mr. Stone believes he has seen through Obama. What a mind! What insight! A wolf in sheep's clothing, he says. What a dumb ass. It took him four years to see what we saw in 2008 and we're still supposed to concede that he's the smart one. Okie dokie.
I hate stupid people.
I'd be happier if these two stayed on the other side. Their calling anyone else Orwellian is itself Orwellian. "Liars pure and simple".
ReplyDeleteWe have entered "The Twilight Zone" with these characters, haven't we? After YEARS of blatant power grabs and disregard for the Constitution and the will of the people, they are sorta kinda maybe a little thinking this guy, Obama, isn't the Messiah they all thought he was.
DeleteGo figure. It's amusing watching the "smart guys" figure it out.
Hmmm, yes indeed. The Twilight Zone. That reminds me of one my favorites. If forced to it, I'd prefer to be Burgess Meredith.
DeleteOliver Stone is well past his "best by" date. Another has-been or used-to-be trying to get a little air time. RG - I don't know if I'd have the courage to be Burgess Meredith. I'd like to think so, but I'm probably one of the crowd that knifes the Chancellor in the last scene. You're right, it's a great episode.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I don't know that I could actually do that. But if the only options are defiance, whatever the cost, or being a compliant cog in the machinery of the State, I'd aspire to be among the defiant.
DeleteI just had time to watch it all the way through. I recognized it when I had popped over a few days ago as one of my favorites from the old reruns, but had forgotten that Wordsworth's first name was Romney.
DeleteRomney. I find that chillingly coincidental. We just had an election which showed that good men, men who don't swear and don't cheat on their wives or business partners or country, men who are kind to others and give to charity, men who read their Bibles, are now obsolete in America.
Like you said, Buttercup, they're only just figuring this out??
ReplyDeleteI knew BEFORE Obama was elected in 2008 that he was a dangerous man. He has a gift of oratory (until he has to do without his teleprompter of course) that really has the power to sway those who want to believe the lie of liberalism, but from the very first I saw those lifeless eyes. I've never ONCE seen a genuine benevolent smile reach his eyes.
Me, too, Morris. The first time I saw him a felt like I was watching a soulless being, almost a robot, speak. I never thought he even had the gift of oratory. He sing-song rhythm, constantly punctuated by his hand gestures and the back and forth of his head to read the teleprompter always made me squeamish. So programmed. So carefully and painstakingly manufactured.
DeleteHe has always given me the creeps.
Yes, I had an *instant* aversion to the man. The only other person who's affected that way is our Australian Prime Minister, Julia Gillard - as a matter of fact my aversion was more like instant revulsion. It's something about the way she talks and acts - once again it's that falseness, but I'm a little puzzled that my revulsion for the woman is so extreme. I'll figure it out one day.
DeleteI thought the same thing about the second most incompetent President in our history, Jimmuh Cahtuh. His smile never reached his eyes. But, he wasn't as bad as the commielib that lost to Richard Nixon. Hubert Humphrey was just ... yuck! And I mean that in the most barftastic way possible. Take a look at his photos sometime.
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